E1 - The Power of Heart Coherence in Veterinary Care
Keywords
veterinary care, animal communication, heart coherence, emotional distress, human-animal bond, holistic healing, emergency veterinary medicine, animal behavior, self-awareness, trust, animal communication, heart coherence, energy healing, emotional connection, mindfulness, animal wellness, heart math, pet care, emotional intelligence, animal behavior
Summary
In this conversation, Kerri Lake and Dr. Barrie Sands explore the profound connection between humans and animals, particularly in the context of veterinary emergency care. Dr. Sands shares her experiences as an emergency veterinarian, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a heart-centered approach in high-stress situations. They discuss how animals reflect human emotions, the significance of heart coherence, and the healing power of the human-animal bond. The conversation highlights the need for self-awareness and understanding in both animal care and human emotional processing, ultimately advocating for a more compassionate and intuitive approach to veterinary medicine. In this conversation, the speakers explore the profound connection between humans and animals, emphasizing the importance of heart coherence and energy in fostering this bond. They discuss how animals can sense human emotions and energies, and how a mindful approach can enhance the well-being of both pets and their owners. The conversation also touches on the significance of being present and open-hearted, especially during times of crisis, and offers practical tools for cultivating a deeper emotional connection with animals.
Takeaways
The connection between humans and animals can open hearts.
Heart coherence is essential in emergency veterinary care.
Animals reflect human emotions and energy.
Self-awareness is crucial in animal care.
Animals communicate their feelings through behavior.
The heart has no judgment, only unconditional love.
Humans can learn from the heart-based nature of animals.
Emotional distress in humans affects animals significantly.
Techniques like HeartMath can help maintain calmness.
Trust is built through self-awareness and patience. Animals can sense human emotions and energies.
Heart coherence is essential for connecting with animals.
Mindfulness can enhance the well-being of pets.
Animals respond positively to open-heartedness.
The energy we emit can affect our pets' health.
It's important to focus on wellness rather than disease.
Practicing heart connection can help in times of crisis.
Animals offer unconditional love, even in difficult times.
Small experiences of love can lead to greater emotional connection.
Education and tools are available to help foster these connections.
Quotes
"The heart doesn't have a judgment."
"The heart simply says, here I am."
"Animals are so heart-based, naturally."
"Animals absorb excess energy."
"It's about self-awareness."
"We need to let that go."
"Animals are surprised sometimes."
"Animals will always show up for that."
"It's a choice, it's a choice."
"What if it's magnificent?"
"It's about being in your heart."
"Love is not a one-way street."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Connection Between Humans and Animals
03:07 The Role of Heart in Veterinary Emergency Care
05:54 Navigating Emotional Distress in Emergency Situations
08:50 The Importance of Heart Coherence
12:01 Understanding Animal Behavior and Communication
14:52 The Impact of Human Emotions on Animals
17:59 The Healing Power of Animals
21:05 The Role of Self-Awareness in Animal Care
23:56 The Journey of Trust Between Humans and Animals
27:08 Overcoming Fear and Vulnerability in Animal Care
33:30 Connecting with Animals: A Heartfelt Approach
41:21 The Healing Power of Energy and Intention
57:10 Navigating Emotions: Tools for Heart Connection
Transcript
Kerri (00:15.112)
Okay, beautiful. So Welcome to the Animals of a New Earth podcast, and I'm Kerri Lake, the creator of the podcast. Happy to be here and share with you a really dear friend of mine, Dr. Barry Sands. And Barry is an emergency room veterinarian here in San Diego. She does really intense work and
brings in an amazing and beautiful heart and a beautiful awareness and consciousness to the work that she does. She and I have played together on projects and we see the connection between human and animals in a really similar way, as well as play at really similar levels of consciousness with respect to how humanity can evolve into
a more harmonious species and maybe how the animals assist to that and are with us side by side in that. I'm really excited for wherever our conversation takes us. But Barry, would you like to introduce yourself any further beyond that and just share a little bit more about where you play in the world and what you play with?
Yeah, sure. Thanks, Kerri. It's wonderful to be here. Thank you for inviting me to have this chat with you. I am a veterinarian. I've been a veterinarian for over 29 years. And I have a holistic practice where I do acupuncture and functional medicine and all sorts of energetic modalities with animals. I also
work on an emergency services in the critical care department, dealing with animals in the best possible way that you can in Western medicine, which is, you know, a wonderful opportunity to help them. I'm also a certified trainer, coach, and mentor through the HeartMath Institute, and I utilize those techniques with clients and clients with animals and people without animals and
Barrie (02:30.894)
So it's a wonderful addition to the healing that I can do.
I love it. Thank you. The whole purpose, like the whole point behind sharing these conversations is to illuminate the amazingly simple and profound conduit that the animal kingdom is to open the hearts of humans. And on some levels, it's really obvious, right, that our pets, we love our pets, we love the dolphins, we love
the animals on the planet, wild animals. But in other ways, it's not so obvious that the connection with animals would open our hearts. one of the first things that's presenting that I would love for you to address is, for one thing, like, how do you do it? If you're an emergency, that you get to see the animals in such profound distress and people in distress, but at the same time,
You work with heart math, you have a holistic practice. For a lot of people, think that just even thinking about animals in an emergency is so overwhelming, they would just shatter. They would just check out, because it's just too much. So can you talk about what that's like for you? And how you bring heart to it? How your heart stays open when you're doing these things?
Yeah, well, you know, aside from the tools and techniques that I have learned to use through my training in heart math, it is absolutely essential to be able to always come from a place of heart, feelings, and be open to your intuitive guidance at all all times. And it allows me to be calm in the
Barrie (04:31.304)
mist of all the chaos and the crazy that happens because it happens on so many levels. It happens with the clients that come in. They're in great distress for a variety of different reasons, right? They have fears around the loss of their pet. They have fears around the money that they may need to spend, the possibilities of losing their animals.
the trauma alone being so acute, I mean that's the nature of emergency, but it just happens. Right. It's not expected. So that's all like a blindsidedness to that. And people come in, they express their emotions in all these different ways when in the face of that adversity. And a lot of people will go towards anger and frustration, irritability, fear, anxiety, and it gets trans...
It's.
Barrie (05:24.846)
transmitted on to the veterinarians that are there and the staff that is there. So what I do is presented with the situation, at least with clients, I will always go to a place of calm. I go within and I connect with my heart space and then I go in when I'm ready to greet them and they feel that. As soon as I walk in, they can feel the energy that I'm putting out is a calming energy. And so whatever frazzled
situation they may be in, there's an immediate shift and it may be a little one, but it's enough, you know, to get some kind of conversation started. You know, as with the animals, I'm of service. I'm there to help them, you know, and with my education and training extensively in the emergency room, it's not much surprises me that comes in anymore. And I have also a very good
sense of where this animal wants to be. Is it ready to transition? Does it want to be helped? Is it going to live? Is it going to die? And that really helps me navigate through the uncertainties in what I need to implement as a therapy and also what I tell the client.
It's remarkable. I think it's just profound skill level that you have to, and I think a lot from experience, That you can be there with so much going on and yet have the priority of knowing why you're there in the first place, right? And still have the presence that what actually helps the whole picture
is you staying right with your heart.
Barrie (07:20.332)
Yeah.
Was it? Go ahead.
No, please. Do you?
Kerri (07:28.334)
Are you aware of a time when you shifted from just overwhelm, adrenaline, know, like survival mode, react to the emergency? Do you remember like evolving from that approach into being able to stay within your heart?
You know, I don't remember a specific point in time where that might have happened. I feel like I have always been naturally connected to my heart and that part seemed pretty strong with me. And then when my skill level and my experience sort of caught up with that together, know, that implicit knowledge that you have, knowing what you know.
And then that connection to the unknown in a sense through your intuition, those two things together really became nice, a pairing, a really helpful pairing. However, there are times in the ER when it is absolutely overwhelming and I find myself not in my heart space and I'm going through these mental and emotional roller coaster moments and
when I'm aware of those situations is when I will choose to do some sort of technique on the fly so that I can get into coherence and go into my heart and and recalibrate myself. For instance, there was a time I walk in at six o'clock in the morning, my shift starts at six, I have probably about 15, 17 critical inpatients that I'm dealing with and
Clients are calling on the phone for updates and they want to know how their animal is done. They want to talk to me. My computer system is completely down and I'm not an IT person. I just added to the stress of my day. So I'm on the phone with the IT person and they're speaking in a language that I don't understand and he's telling me, well, this is what you need to do. And I'm like, I'm not the person you should be talking to. You just need to fix it. And then
Barrie (09:48.652)
so then I can go about my day because I can't do that. I don't know what you're saying. So he did end up fixing it. And one of my nurses came over and asked me a question about a treatment plan and I just snapped at her. she was, we've been working together for a while and we have a close relationship.
And she turns around, she says, what's the matter with you? Why did you say that to me? So then I said, I'm sorry, I need a minute. Give me a minute. So then I just sat there in the world of this chaos. And I just closed my eyes, went inside, did an intercom technique. And within a minute I was fine and everything was okay. And I completely noticed the shift in the whole room as soon as I did that.
The nurses were calmer, the staff was calmer, the receptionists were calmer. had a sort of a snowball effect. Yeah. Yeah.
What I love about that is when we come to our hearts as people, we put ourselves in that same unconditional giving, loving place that animals generally are for us. You know, it is the neutral emanation of the heart. The heart doesn't have a judgment that this is a good thing and that is a bad thing. The heart simply says,
Here I am, here's some nourishing energy, here's some nourishing consciousness, so that everything can unfold in the best possible way. And that is one of the ways that I recognize what animals offer people all the time, why animals feel therapeutic, per se. this is what I love, like the demonstration of a human being that space in the middle of
Kerri (12:01.558)
you know, super intense freak out land. You know, for most people, like I said, it's just not even an option to step in that building, you know? It's pretty remarkable. And I love that there are the tools now. There are more tools, whether it's heart math or other techniques, know, different people teach different techniques.
Ultimately, what it's about is how it feels, right?
Right, right. you can feel that. And not only that, but the beauty of doing these techniques will, the more you go into your heart and you connect with your intuitive intelligence and synchronize your heart and your brain and your nervous system, it creates a biological change, like a permanent upgrade.
shift.
Barrie (12:59.328)
Totally. you can exist in that state. And so you go from a place of thinking to doing to being. And then you just become that way. Most of the time. mean, we're humans, so there's no one's that. You know, you may kind of like, where'd I go?
Exactly. But see, this is what I love because the more often you have that experience, it takes you back to innate. It takes you back to your natural state of being, which is that coherence. It's how we're designed to live. And the more often you have that experience, even the mind starts looking for it, right? The mind gets less interested in twanging off to the side.
And even in, especially in times of stress, the mind starts looking, all right, where is that feeling in the body that is the change in chemistry? It is the change in physiology. And the mind starts to realize that the body is actually like the safest place to be because that from there is where you you can sense what's actually going on around you and respond with your intuitive skills.
and or with your intellectual skills. Like you have the marriage of both of them from that place.
Yeah, yeah. And you know, that's an excellent point and a beautiful way to put it because the people react more to what they feel at first. And a lot of times the first thing people feel is nervousness or fear or anxiety. And then they start, you know, going through this loop of feeling and thinking and thinking and feeling. And then before you know it, you're a complete mess.
Barrie (14:49.942)
Right? It's out of control. To have the body feel calm and to connect with that, that's not, even though that is innate in us, it's not an easy place to be or to become for a lot of people, especially in this time, you know, and we're, you know, with COVID-19 and people having social distancing and being afraid of so many things.
Yeah.
Barrie (15:19.308)
they, there's a lot of emotions that are flying around, you know, and not everybody is handling it well, and some are handling it better than others, and there's a whole spectrum of the way things are. And I noticed that in, you know, the animals, the animals are home with us, and they're forced to be around us.
Yes, in all of that vibration of whatever anxiety or stress or interpretation, right? Because that's what humans do. I love that you brought that up. Humans, we have this experience in our body, whether it's nervousness or anxiety or even just excitement, but then it gets interpreted and often misinterpreted to mean I'm about to die, you know? And a change in our state of being.
without tools and skills and a little bit of education, the mind can just sort of panic and either shut everything down, that might be familiar, or run away, that might be familiar, right? Or some other way try to control the experience. But all of that's from the human mental interpretation of whatever this feeling is.
So I talk about this all the time, but I want to hear what you have to say. What's the difference then between humans and animals with respect to that feeling something in your body and then what you do about it?
Well, mean, animals are so heart-based, naturally. They exist from a place of love. And well, you know, it depends on the species, I think. You know, if you're comparing dogs and cats, domestic animals as such, know, dogs are very much of service. They want to be a part of us. They want to do what
Barrie (17:29.838)
They want to make us happy and they want to be a service and they absorb a lot of our energies. Cats on the other hand, you know, not so much, you know, they have their own agenda. They still, love us. They have open hearts. They're from, they're a little bit different. You know, sometimes I feel like they're here to teach us things and they're not as much as service. You know, if they don't like what
what they're feeling, they're gonna tell you. They're gonna either pee on your laundry basket or poop in the bathtub or just vomit on something that you love. They have a specific place where they know they would do that. That would get some reaction in you. our animals are, at least they are reflections of us on some level.
And you know, I don't know. that was that a good question?
It's all good. love what you said, but I have to say, it depends on what you call service, right? If we say that somebody's of service because they help us feel better and that better is the definition of service, then I could go with what you're saying. like to me, see cats, they're just very different. Like cats are of service to help remind us what sovereignty.
can be, you know, to what freedom can be and what honoring yourself can feel like and what it can be like, like you said, if I'm not feeling honored and I'm not feeling heard and I've tried to communicate it, but I'm still not being heard, I need to kick it up a notch and be a little louder, so I'm gonna poop here, you know, and that can happen. It's just, again, goes back to how humans interpret.
Kerri (19:35.628)
the experience, you know, and if often if it's a an unpleasant experience, humans tend to go into problem solving mode before they start listening. Like in, know, how do we fix this bad cat? Bad, bad, bad. Instead of going, that's fascinating. So I wonder what's really going on. And when humans can shift into that place of asking that question,
I wonder what's really going on here.
Yeah, well, I'm hoping that most people who live with these animals, live with their dog, live with their cat, you know, if their behavior is completely off and say the cat does that and then all of a sudden, you know, it's, you know, the cat pees in the sink or pees on some laundry. A lot of times they want to, they're smart enough to say, look, I have a problem and you need to pay attention. And so usually
A lot of cats will do that when they have urinary tract issues. They have infections or stones or their bladder hurts or they have inflammation or something and they just want to point it out to the attention to say something's up or vomiting. animals, then dogs and cats vomit for many different reasons. It's symptom. It's a symptom like anything else of something wrong. It's the body's message that tells you something that's wrong.
And that's some way that they have learned to communicate with us. And we just have to interpret it, like you said, in a different way by asking what is going on. Like for instance, because of all of the confinement that people are having and they're staying home a lot, the animals are becoming overwhelmed, emotionally overwhelmed. And I'm experiencing...
Barrie (21:33.486)
what I call a lot of emotional purging in these animals. There's a lot of gastrointestinal situations that are coming into the ER now. A lot of vomiting, a lot of diarrhea, a lot of urinary obstructions in cats, know, from stress. A lot of seizures I'm seeing, lot of heart arrhythmias and heart failure. know, things that are associated with the energetics of
you know, us being in a little bit of a higher level of anxiety. I had an owner whose cat came in for a year in obstruction. And he said, you know, I understand that this could be related to stress in my cat. What do you suggest I do? Is there something I can give him? And I said, well, yeah, I would suggest, you know, trying to be,
you know, mindful of the situation that the cat is in, you know, because in our house, had a day that everybody was vomiting. It was like two days, the cats, the dog, everybody was just vomiting. we had to tone it down in our environment because it was just too much energy. And it could be, it doesn't have to be nervous energy or anxious energy. It's just, could be, you know, just
too much.
Yeah, and people often don't realize how much processing they're doing in their minds. You know, even if everything just seems all good, where nobody's fighting, nobody's angry, nobody's upset, humans still process a lot. And like you said, animals absolutely absorb disharmonious energy. They will absorb excess energy. And it, you know, just like
Kerri (23:28.906)
Imagine if you're in a room and somebody's playing two different radios with two different heavy metal music, you know, going. Nobody, it's all good. You may not like it. It's just music. It's just playing, but it's going to have an effect on the way your body feels. I know because our bodies are mostly water. Water responds to energetic vibration. And when it's just blasting,
then you can feel the change. Animals feel that not only from sound and light, but from emotions and thought patterns as well. so it's encouragement and empowerment, you know, for people to not get down on yourself for being human, but set yourself up to be a little bit more aware of what you're actually feeling.
so that you can make a change if you find excess in yourself. know? And this is, the animals will communicate that when you see them barfing or excess scratching or whatever it is, it's like they're saying, here's how it feels.
Mm-hmm, right, because they need to do something with that energy that they're feeling. And a lot of people, I think a lot of people understand the concept that when I'm stressed out, my dog can be stressed out because they feel it. But the mechanism around that is that we have an electromagnetic field that is produced from our hearts.
very, very strongly. It's the largest electromagnetic field from our body. studies have shown that this field goes out at least nine feet, maybe probably even more. We just don't have the technology yet to measure it out there, but it goes really far. And what we put into that electromagnetic field, the way that it resonates and the frequency that it's at,
Barrie (25:40.398)
whether it's smooth and coherent or jagged like that kind of heavy metal mishmash really depends on how what emotional landscape we're coming from. You know, so we come from a place of calm, appreciation, care and love and gratitude. That's a really nice smooth signal. And the animals love that and people love that. They can sense that. And if it comes from this anxiety or frustration,
anger, judgment, whatever that is that is in a discord, that frequency is also very jagged and that gets picked up as well. so if you have, I feel sometimes if you have a visual of what that would look like, like if you could see your emotions coming out of your body, think people might say, whoa, that's weird. I don't like that. And I'm going to sound nice and like the rolling waves, you know, and to make a conscious effort to change that.
Yeah.
It is a conscious effort too. I like people will say, that sounds like work. Do I have to really work at it? The answer is yes. You know, it just is. But it asks people to be aware, like, what is your priority? It's not about good human, bad human, you know, unless you really want to live in that world of punishments, you know. And the animals are not about good human, bad human.
Right?
Kerri (27:09.676)
simply going, here's how it feels. Like, hey guys, pay attention. Here's how it feels. And so if we're not gonna say good human, bad human, because we're human, we have this opportunity to shift perspective a little bit and just go, okay, what's my real priority here? If I'm in an emergency room and I have to put this critter's body back together,
What's my priority? What's really, truly valuable here? And, you know, maybe you have more to say about this, but what I know from my own experience, you know, I've worked a lot with horses, right? And horses that nobody else wanted to touch. And, you know, here goes me. I got this one, you know? And it was all 100 % because my awareness was first with my heart.
It was first with my body. It was first with generating that smooth wave in such a way that the animal can feel me. I can let them see me. This is who I am, buddy. And then that becomes our place of connection because that's what they're looking for to have the experience that humans call safety. When animals feel
Mm-hmm.
Barrie (28:33.773)
Yeah.
somebody with them of whatever species doesn't really matter, but when they feel that harmonious movement, they feel not alone. Right. And when animals feel not alone, that is the right ground for safety. Right. And so horses, you know, there's a story I love to tell all the time about the little horse that I bought for $50 at an auction.
because he had been profoundly abused. Like, I'll just spare you the details, you know. I was told it took six cowboys to put this small horse in a trailer. Like, they beat him into it or something, and they were telling me he was gonna kill me. And I just said, okay, thank you, you know. And they're like, okay, we'll rope him for you. You let us know when you're ready, because you're not gonna be able to touch that horse. I'm like, okay, thank you.
And I just walked in the paddock and stood maybe 15 feet from him and did exactly this. I just brought my awareness to my heart, to my body. And I said, here's who I am. You judge for yourself if you can trust me because I'm not going to force you to trust me. That's impossible, right? And the way that, you know, it took a few minutes listening.
to each other and then we had to go pull the trailer up and you know there's cowboys with ropes standing by and I ended up just taking the halter in and I showed it to him I said I really need to ask you to wear this because we really need to get you out of here and from my heart feeling my heart I was using my other skills to communicate with pictures and senses you know
Kerri (30:30.478)
where I wanted him to come with me and giving him the chance Yeah, and giving him the chance to trust me or not Right, but I knew I was telling the truth because I could feel that in my heart and I just basically let him know it's time I need to ask you to wear this and he just flipped his ear. He gave me his ear and said, okay
Yes, yes.
Kerri (30:58.286)
And I literally just walked over to him, put the halter on and he stood stock still. I didn't even put pressure on him and he just followed me right out all the way up to the trailer and we walked in side by side. He just stepped in right next to me into the trailer, closed the door and off we went. There's several situations like that in my world where it was 100 % about self-awareness.
100 % about me being willing to communicate safety from my own body rather than waiting for the animal to appear to be safe for me. Right? So that's got to translate into the ER.
Yep, yep, absolutely. That's it. You know, you never told me that story and I love that. That's a great story.
Yeah, when I draw it out, it's like an 18 minute story. So I just squished it little bit here, but yeah.
Yeah, you know, a couple of things came up for me as you were saying that one of the things is, and I'll get back to the original question. Yeah. Is that I find that people in general are afraid of going into that heart space and, and just going in and putting out that love. There's an S there's
Barrie (32:27.47)
There's a lot of self judgment around that. And there's ego and fear saying, okay, well, what if this doesn't work? Or what if I'm too vulnerable? Or what if I fail? All this kind of communication sets up and we need to let that go. We just need to let that go. And like you did was just to connect with yourself and love and wait and be patient.
right, and allow it to go and allow it to go. And what I've noticed in these ER patients is when the ER is a very busy, loud place. So when the animals come in...
Hey buddy.
When the animals come in, they come into the back and they are bombarded with all these sensory inputs.
I love it. We just get the little butt and the tail in the view. There he is.
Barrie (33:36.21)
That's my cat Munster. So I've noticed animals, dogs coming in that are nervous and they're just standing there waiting and they're looking around, looking around. If I come by and I just, you know, I always, I'm always mindful having that vibration in the ER to come from a place of, okay, here we are, here I am.
you know, I'm open and I'm sending out love and calm. And I've had dogs double take me, which is really, I'll come by and they will, they'll look at me and they'll look and then they'll look. Like what are they seeing that they haven't seen? And then they lock on to me and they just.
They're just waiting for me to do something.
I it. I had an experience like that just at a gas station. I'm sitting in the passenger seat and across the way was this truck and there was a yellow lab in the back of the truck. And I looked at him and I just sent him a hello, not vocally. And he, I think he had never seen that before. Because he just started barking at me. Yeah, he started like barking at me like, wow, wait, what are you doing?
Wait, what was that? You know? And I, so I just disconnected and I said, no worries, no worries. But what was amazing is a couple minutes later that truck was pulling out or something and, and it drove by the front of our car. And as it did, the dog was like looking at me and like beaming to get my attention. And he's like, okay, bye. You know, just the connection is
Kerri (35:33.55)
And I think it's really cool that that came up because I think a lot of people assume that animals are all more enlightened than humans, that animals all already know this. But the truth is there are plenty of animals who haven't ever had that experience of a human embodied emanating that purity of heart, that open-heartedness.
and they are surprised sometimes.
Yeah, that's a way putting it, that surprise factor, because it seems like that is a surprise. know, I've had, you know, a while ago when I started just really embracing, you know, the heart coherence and being able to radiate that out, I did notice that animals just looked at me differently. They just did.
And I'd be like, what is he looking at? I feel like they see something that I can't see that's there, but they're seeing it. you can see them scanning and looking. It's so interesting. whether or not we have a conversation is sometimes yes, sometimes no. It's not important. Sometimes it's the hat.
That's how, when I was like an early teenager, that was how I was paying attention is when they looked at me in that way, that was like my foundation to know who I am as well. And to know when I, I didn't have the language back then to say I was in my heart or I wasn't or whatever. I just knew what it felt like. And when I felt like this, the animals respond this way.
Barrie (36:56.59)
was how
Kerri (37:24.01)
And I knew I could, and I played with it to be able to have command to generate that space, to generate that feeling in me when I wanted to connect with an animal. mean, another example, think I was 19 and we went to California State Fair or something and they had camels and giraffes there on this day. And I love, love, love giraffes.
So I walked over and I'm standing by the giraffe's enclosure. now my internet's unstable, but that's right, it'll come back. I was standing by the giraffe's enclosure just beaming love. Like, I didn't need anything from them, I didn't want anything. I was just so, so in love with these amazing creatures who were standing over at the other end of the paddock.
And one of them picked up his head and he turned and he looked straight at me because he could feel me. And he walked over and just reached out over the fence all the way. he picked up my jacket in his mouth and he was just mouthing on my jacket and I'm rubbing his face. it was a moment, right? Because here's this 19 year old surrounded by little kids and I'm just sitting there loving on him.
You are.
Kerri (38:51.15)
But it's a hundred percent that purity of, here's my heart. This is the truth of my heart. And animals will always show up for that. Just like, you know, your kitty, comes in when, and I was paying attention to this too, he comes in when the energy shifts. Cats love energy. Cats love that openness. Like they are a testament to when you're in your heart and when you're emanating.
that the beauty and the truth of your being, they will be right there, you know, and energy healers will tell you too, like cats will come and lay on top of you when you're doing energy work, because they just dig it, you know?
I feel like for them it almost feels like home.
Yeah. Feels to me too.
That they definitely gravitate to that all the time. I I have a little energy mat that is filled with tourmaline and black tourmaline and amethyst crystals. And whenever I have it open, the cats are always on it. I can't use it. I I will kick them off, but I always want to be on it.
Kerri (40:03.086)
Ha
We have crystals, especially that gray cat, he loves to sit on top of the big amethyst rocks that we have.
This is in crystals. They're such a they're they're just exactly what they are right crystals are not they don't have a mind and an ego that are going to You know sort of go wonky in the vibration right crystals vibrate what they are They are specific structure and there's a purity to it. There's an uninterrupted Coherence really of another kind, you know crystals are profoundly coherent with themselves
Thank
Kerri (40:42.26)
And cats love that. it's just, really is no different. I mean, it's different in the details, but a human being having a priority of being aligned with their heart, you become the crystal that just emanates a pure frequency. And animals will always show up and say, there you are.
Yeah, they are remarkable. And that's also healing for them.
you
Here he is.
Can you start that sentence over? It's also healing for them?
Barrie (41:32.962)
Can hear me?
Now you're back. Just start that sentence over if you can. It's also healing for them.
Yeah, is the energies that we put out for them can be, they can, we're both ways. They can be healing frequencies and they can be destructive frequencies where they can actually create some sort of disease pattern in them from the frequencies that we're constantly admitting. And because these animals are invested in us, they love us so much.
and they're in our vicinity all the time, they not only do they sense our energies, but they will start to incorporate those energies as transfers into their own bodies where it starts to change their physiological makeup. And then it'll start creating certain disease processes inside of them because of the things that we're putting out. And that's not to say bad human, you're hurting your animals.
right, because we don't want to get into that mindset. But it is another reason to be mindful of what the energies we are putting out and how it's being received, you know, to our animals, to our friends, to our families, to our neighbors, to the world, you know, to the people across the globe. I mean, they're feeling it. We're all feeling each other's energies. Yes. Yeah.
Kerri (43:09.962)
And I love that you said it's not a bad human thing, you know. So to me it's like a lot of people, will do, they'll fly universes to take care of their animals. They'll do whatever it takes. They'll go, you know, so far out of their way to care for their animals. And, but a lot of them are doing that with this energy of worry. Right. With this energy of have I done enough?
Can I do more? Should I do more? Have I missed something? And what is especially, and maybe for some people it seems counterintuitive or like you said earlier, it's really hard to go to the heart space for humans. But when you notice your animal is having a hard time, one of the best things you can do is take care of yourself first. One of the best things you can do.
Right. I love it.
Kerri (44:07.116)
for your animal is bring yourself back to your own body. And if you need tools, tools exist. If you need support, support exists. But whatever it takes, empower yourself to recognize that you see an animal in distress, diarrhea or barfing or scratching or whining or just something's not right. One of the best things you can do to help them
is use your tools to come back to your own heart and feel that heart space. And then you can take action from a totally different place just like you do at work.
Yeah, yeah, I feel like the opportunities that people use in their animals to do that more mindfully or when they are given a diagnosis of some terminal condition, you know, such as cancer, their dog is cancer. A lot of them, you know, it's sad, it's worrisome, it's stressful for them. And I...
And they go through that whole process that you mentioned of self judgment. Like what did I do wrong? Did I miss something? Could I've done something earlier? I prevented it? It becomes all about them. And really what they need to do is open your heart and be in your heart and to project a mindful intention of wellness. But to...
Instead of focusing on the disease state to really picture the animal being in its pure magnificence in its beautiful wellness state and emanate that love and that light to them. And a lot of times you'll see a shift. You'll notice a shift. They're going to start to feel better because now we're focusing our mind in a different direction of health instead of disease. Right? And then it makes us feel better and we don't feel as stressed.
Kerri (46:06.892)
Yes.
Barrie (46:10.966)
and the animals are feeling better. And it's not easy for people to do that, but it does work. It works to focus on the things you want to see.
Ding ding ding ding ding ding. And this, because it's hard for people, like there's so much conditioning in humanity that, you know, to prepare for the worst, this is never going to work. well, I'll just disappoint myself so nobody else can disappoint me or, know, whatever, whatever it is, that's not natural human nature. That's eons of conditioning to not be brilliant.
But in the animal kingdom, the animal kingdom doesn't have that same consciousness to go against ourselves that way. So they do respond when we shift into picturing and feeling and projecting wellness of what we do want, what it's going to look like after this, because they're not evaluating good human, bad human. And what I love about
No.
Kerri (47:23.862)
the existence of heart math is for the people who feel safer having science back this stuff up. It exists through the Institute of Noetic Sciences, Bruce Lipton, Greg Braden, Joe Dispenza, they all have teams of people providing reliable data. So if people do want the data,
If they can't bring themselves to say, okay, I'm going to trust that it works and I'm going to try it, or even, even people who feel like they have tried it and it hasn't worked, you know, they just, I would say they haven't been effective, right? If somebody hasn't been effective, it doesn't mean that your innate intuitive energetic system isn't working. means it's not tuned quite right, you know?
Right, right.
Please give yourself the gift of more education, of guidance, of assistance, you know, because it does exist more so than ever. And then as we do gift ourselves the education and the experience, then we can create the whole world very, very differently.
You you and I can tell stories all day long, and I would love to, but it really comes down to people having the courage and the willingness to give themselves the experience so they can prove to themselves what it actually feels like to have an animal look at them differently and say, there you are. that connection, you can't un-have that connection.
Kerri (49:20.95)
You know?
Right? And, you like you said, to allow themselves to go there and to, it's a choice, it's a choice. And there's a choice point involved because we're always conditioned to think about, when you think of the word what if, it always, when people naturally go to a negative situation, you know, what if it doesn't work? What if it breaks? What if it doesn't start? What if it fails?
Right? Instead of, what if it's magnificent? What if it's tealed? What if it's amazing?
Because that's equally, I know, that's like equally possible, right?
See you.
Barrie (50:06.764)
Right. I had a friend of mine who she was, she has horses and she was afraid to get on her horse and ride in like over these last weeks because she said, well, what if I fall off and the hospitals are filled with people with have COVID-19 and I'm going to be exposed to all these people and I have to go to hospital. There's not going to be enough medications or staff or whatever.
So she doesn't want to go riding. And I'm like, well, I mean, this is a futuristic situation that's hypothetical. you're creating a scenario of this, you falling off this horse. Right. So what if you get on the horse and you ride it?
and relax, yes.
And you're not falling off and you're having an amazing time and you're running and you're playing and you're stretching and you're doing your thing and you feel great and you get a bunch of exercise and you go home and you have dinner and go to bed.
Right, and you go home full of love and you've been breathing horse all day, which is magical for the people who don't know that, but yes.
Barrie (51:24.606)
Right, so we have this we have this choice in our minds to create a scenario in the future So why not create the better one? Yeah Yeah
Exactly. And I think, you know, it goes back to what you were saying before, that humans tend to be afraid to go to their heart. And it's a fear, a couple of things. I think it's a fear of something uncommon. You know, they're afraid of being hurt. I think that feeling their heart has, there is a sensation to it and it's not always comfortable and it's not always familiar.
And so that can be misinterpreted as something bad or wrong or something to avoid. But having these little, even tiny little experiences of everything is great. I'm going to come to my heart and say hi to my dog in a different way and then feel what that feels like. You get a little more experience being in your heart when there's no threat, right? Like humans, don't have to go,
full-bore kamikaze saying, I'm gonna have an open heart and I'm gonna love now, right? You don't have to scare yourself into love. You can welcome smaller experiences and the animal kingdom, that's why they're here, ultimately. Lots of other stuff happens too. But when you show up as a human willing to connect, willing to let an animal connect with you and...
Just play with enough awareness to feel your body when you're there. Breathe through your heart or just don't even work that hard. Just be aware of what it feels like. You've just totally opened the door to living that way more and more and more and it changes the world. It changes your world.
Kerri (53:29.036)
and then your electromagnetic field changes the world of others all around. That's how the system is designed.
Really. Yeah. And one of the things to touch upon too, and when people, when it comes to their animals, the time where they are eminently in their hearts without even thinking about it is in those times of crisis. They come into the ER and because they are so focused on the possibilities of losing that animal, which is
essentially a part of themselves, that becomes very threatening and very scary and they don't know how to navigate through that place because it's this unfamiliar place that they're now sucked into their heart space and they don't know what to do and so it gets very muddled and there's that's where the fear, the anxiety, the anger, the frustration, the irritability, all of those heightened
hyper reactive emotions come into play. And if I feel that if there was just practice, you know, when you're not in crisis, exactly, be in that heart and to emanate that love and to get familiar, like you said, with what's happening to your body in that, in that space, then in those moments of crisis, you're going to be more grounded and heartfelt and more centered in your mind and you can have more
more discernment, more clarity, more focus, more ability to help yourself and your animal. And the people that are trying to help your animal.
Kerri (55:14.65)
Yeah, exactly. It's so beautiful. thank you for all of that. That to me is a huge part. Creating a new earth side by side with the animals is people being willing to to find and receive the tools and the guidance to be able to navigate all that turmoil. It does exist. That's the work that I do.
of
Kerri (55:42.228)
is guide people like here's what you're feeling and here's how you navigate it and here's how you expand beyond it and there's so many different different techniques but it can be profoundly simple when the priority is coming to your heart and that ultimately in all the the studying and looking and seeing that I've done every single modality will eventually lead you to the simplicity of the heart.
So I figure why not start there. And then the animal kingdom is the most amazing partner to say, there you are. Yes, this is what it feels like. Yes. And even if they have an injury, even if they are, if their body is really sick and they're on their way, you know, to the end of their life, they still emanate love. And we can be available for that. And the more available we are, the more
is.
Kerri (56:42.06)
loved they feel because we're receiving their love too. Love is not a one-way street. It's if I'm willing to receive it, I'm feeling it. And if they're offering it and I'm receiving it, they're feeling it. Right. And so it's not a job to do. It's really, it's, it's a, an honor. It's, it's a way of being that nourishes. we're
everybody so
pretty much out of time here. Is there anything else you'd like to say or ask before we wrap up for?
today? you know, I guess one thing is, people like to know, you know, there's a lot of it's, it's nice to talk about all of it, you know, and, people will want to know how, am I supposed to do this? How am I supposed to get into my heart and feel the way that, you know, not feel that, that anxiety, like how do I do that? And, you know, I do,
you know teeth, I will be doing some workshops and classes on that. However, there's a lot of really good youtube videos. heartmath.org has a ton of information and to just and books to read about it. I really one thing I do love about their techniques is that they're very they're short. They're simple. They're quick and they're they're effective and when you said
Barrie (58:15.384)
you know, it's just not working. I've done it, but it's not working. Then there's some part of that technique where you're still in that little disconnect, you know, and you're not quite getting into that space or allowing that to happen. And I find that the resistance sometimes around the shift is not being able to recall
regenerative loving feeling in the throes of chaos because that's when you want to do it is when you're angry or frustrated or in the battle is where you want to acknowledge that you're okay I'm angry and I'm yelling and take a moment breathe you know from that space you know focus your attention into your heart space and just breathe
in and out of your heart, like your heart has these two little nostrils in there and you're just breathing in and out from that. And remember a feeling, remember a time in your life where you felt love or joy or care. And just think about that. We lived that moment. And then it'll take it out, take you off of that, whatever it is that's making you angry, because now you're remembering a time when you were in
I know, the Bahamas and you were swimming with dolphins or something. Or on a roller coaster ride and you were like, yay. Whatever it is, write them down, pre-write them down. Take a moment and write down two or three moments in your life that you thought were incredibly awesome that gave you great feelings. And then just revisit those in those moments. And you'll see the more you do it, the more you do it.
the easier it become and you will start to notice the shift. Yes. Thank you.
Kerri (01:00:19.202)
Yes, yes, beautiful. So heartmath.org will put somehow for people to reach you if they want to reach you and then there's tools and stuff on my website too.
Yes.
Barrie (01:00:33.804)
Yeah, and I have my website is drberrysands.com and so they can reach me there. It's not, it's getting the kinks worked out of it and so it'll be up and running pretty soon.
Perfect. Perfect. We'll put all the links up and we'll make it easy for people. No worries. Barry, thank you so much. What a beauty. I love every time that we talk. It just goes so many rich places. So thank you so much and I'll see you soon.
Yeah, thank you, Kerri. Thank you so much. It's good to see you.
